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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2011 18:39:06 GMT -6
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Post by TOP' on May 8, 2011 18:51:05 GMT -6
That's looks a rough truck  The principal gauges looks cool ;D I hope that's CAT re-begin to made motor and put in another truck than the CT660 |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2011 18:56:42 GMT -6
Yeah, i hope Cat does... I would buy this truck in a heart beat knowing Cats durability, dependability, and the looks are defiantly different.
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Post by Chris on May 8, 2011 19:22:14 GMT -6
That's hideous. Probably just as much of a lemon as the engines they've been making for the past 15 or so years. Cat needs to give it a rest and accept it's fate as sub par crap.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2011 19:25:09 GMT -6
That's hideous. Probably just as much of a lemon as the engines they've been making for the past 15 or so years. Cat needs to give it a rest and accept it's fate as sub par crap. Really... What makes you think Cat sucks, huh? Cat, Detroit and Cummins are all great motors. None really "suck" Although for years Detroit lacked power, but they struck back with the DD16. |
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Post by Chris on May 8, 2011 19:39:59 GMT -6
The series 60 detroit was a powerhouse, not sure what you're talking about.
Cat lost their game when they came out with the c-15. They obviously pull well but unfortunately that's all they seem to accomplish. And a whole mess of wiring issues. They probably used chimps to design them. They've even had lawsuits thrown at them for misfunctioning equipment in their engine designs.
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Post by Peter379 on May 8, 2011 19:42:19 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2011 19:48:39 GMT -6
The series 60 detroit was a powerhouse, not sure what you're talking about. Cat lost their game when they came out with the c-15. They obviously pull well but unfortunately that's all they seem to accomplish. And a whole mess of wiring issues. They probably used chimps to design them. They've even had lawsuits thrown at them for misfunctioning equipment in their engine designs. Even ask Aaron. Series 60 lacks power... Max 1650 Torque at 515 hp, when Cat has 625 HP at 2050 Torque. Gotta say, my dads C15 has had only ONE problem. Just the rocker arm broke. Thats it, then just normal wear and tear, and it has 376k miles... |
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Post by Chris on May 8, 2011 19:55:58 GMT -6
I've had experience with detroits, my dad owned a 515 series 60 in a 9400. Alot easier to work on then cat, and get this, the engine's design actually makes sense. I learned how to work on trucks with that engine. The c-15 is bullshit. The only engine designer who couldn't make an engine with proper emissions. What a joke. Good riddance. The c-15 made alot of truckers broke, especially the twin turbo.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2011 20:02:52 GMT -6
I've had experience with detroits, my dad owned a 515 series 60 in a 9400. Alot easier to work on then cat, and get this, the engine's design actually makes sense. I learned how to work on trucks with that engine. The c-15 is bullshit. The only engine designer who couldn't make an engine with proper emissions. What a joke. Good riddance. The c-15 made alot of truckers broke, especially the twin turbo. 5 out of 6 of ours trucks are Cat C15's. Gotta say, they will blow a Detroit off the road when it comes to power. The engines or the twin turbo's have not made us broke! You think a C15 is bullshit because your so used too a Detroit, lol. You'll say Detroit is amazing and a power house and Cat sucks. Someone else will say Cat is amazing and a power house, and Detroit sucks. Its all opinions.... |
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Post by PiñaKolata on May 8, 2011 20:08:10 GMT -6
That's hideous. Probably just as much of a lemon as the engines they've been making for the past 15 or so years. Cat needs to give it a rest and accept it's fate as sub par crap. Sucked the last 15 years? Well maybe in your opinion, sure they went down hill and even sucked with the Acert series and your right it wasn't a reliable motor... But the C16 and 3406 series were outstanding motors... I drive a 1994 White/GMC with a 3406 Cat with 1.2 million miles and the thing runs like a freaking top and hasn't ever had any major work done to it  And from my experience the Series 60 was a brick house but did lack on power, but it was also a 12.7L with 430hp... So IDK about the 515 models or 14.0L  Personally I have to agree with Reddog I think it is a majority opinion over actual facts, because I would personally take a C15 Acert over an ISX any day... |
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Post by r.modjeski on May 8, 2011 20:08:59 GMT -6
by the looks of the trucks, they can take a beating. let's hope same can be said for the engine
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2011 20:11:21 GMT -6
say what you will about cat engines.....every truck I ever drove had a cat and the Pete 379 I owned had a 550 cat and that thing was a beast.....
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2011 20:48:57 GMT -6
Cat is ftw! Looks like a good work truck.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2011 21:00:52 GMT -6
I've had experience with detroits, my dad owned a 515 series 60 in a 9400. Alot easier to work on then cat, and get this, the engine's design actually makes sense. I learned how to work on trucks with that engine. The c-15 is bullshit. The only engine designer who couldn't make an engine with proper emissions. What a joke. Good riddance. The c-15 made alot of truckers broke, especially the twin turbo. 5 out of 6 of ours trucks are Cat C15's. Gotta say, they will blow a Detroit off the road when it comes to power. The engines or the twin turbo's have not made us broke! You think a C15 is bullshit because your so used too a Detroit, lol. You'll say Detroit is amazing and a power house and Cat sucks. Someone else will say Cat is amazing and a power house, and Detroit sucks. Its all opinions.... Look acerts blow reddog just praises them because with any engine his dad will get the same miles per gallon. Some engines are great some aren't. It comes down to maintenance...if you don't change the oil at the intervals that it needs to your engine will go down. Along with regular PM's and such. What ive seen is detriot is an ok engine but most wont make it to the 1mil mark. The last real CAT engine is the 6nz...you can get an bridge and an acert to run like it but your spending more money than you should invest in an engine. I could care less if I blow your doors off. Im keeping it at 70 on the cruise. I don't want to loose my license and screw with my CVSA score. Change your oil take care of your engine and it will take care of you. Next engine will be an ISX it's the best thing out there in newer trucks. CAT's blow chunks after 04. Oh and don't tell me I don't know what im talking about and such....Right now im trying to solve a friends MPG woes...with an 05 CAT and a 379 only thing I can suggest is freeflow mufflers because the acert runs hot then a mofo. If you want to tell me how you blew the doors of some POS detriot or whatever go ahead im not the one loosing revenue. BTW Chris the detriot has a weird engine design..Every hard to do anything with it but a cheap engine to rebuild. The CAT is easier oil changes and such. Sometimes it can depend on your hood and the size. I'd rather work on a long hood alot of space and very easy to reach everything in the engine. |
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Post by bhfanatik on May 8, 2011 22:44:03 GMT -6
5 out of 6 of ours trucks are Cat C15's. Gotta say, they will blow a Detroit off the road when it comes to power. The engines or the twin turbo's have not made us broke! You think a C15 is bullshit because your so used too a Detroit, lol. You'll say Detroit is amazing and a power house and Cat sucks. Someone else will say Cat is amazing and a power house, and Detroit sucks. Its all opinions.... Look acerts blow reddog just praises them because with any engine his dad will get the same miles per gallon. Some engines are great some aren't. It comes down to maintenance...if you don't change the oil at the intervals that it needs to your engine will go down. Along with regular PM's and such. What ive seen is detriot is an ok engine but most wont make it to the 1mil mark. The last real CAT engine is the 6nz...you can get an bridge and an acert to run like it but your spending more money than you should invest in an engine. I could care less if I blow your doors off. Im keeping it at 70 on the cruise. I don't want to loose my license and screw with my CVSA score. Change your oil take care of your engine and it will take care of you. Next engine will be an ISX it's the best thing out there in newer trucks. CAT's blow chunks after 04. Oh and don't tell me I don't know what im talking about and such....Right now im trying to solve a friends MPG woes...with an 05 CAT and a 379 only thing I can suggest is freeflow mufflers because the acert runs hot then a mofo. If you want to tell me how you blew the doors of some POS detriot or whatever go ahead im not the one loosing revenue. BTW Chris the detriot has a weird engine design..Every hard to do anything with it but a cheap engine to rebuild. The CAT is easier oil changes and such. Sometimes it can depend on your hood and the size. I'd rather work on a long hood alot of space and very easy to reach everything in the engine. I am going to bring you out of the -1 to 0 in karma |
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Post by Chris on May 8, 2011 23:58:35 GMT -6
You think a C15 is bullshit because your so used too a Detroit, lol. Uhmm, you're dumb. Quite the opposite. I've been around cat engines most of my life. That's how I know.  That's hideous. Probably just as much of a lemon as the engines they've been making for the past 15 or so years. Cat needs to give it a rest and accept it's fate as sub par crap. Sucked the last 15 years? Well maybe in your opinion, sure they went down hill and even sucked with the Acert series and your right it wasn't a reliable motor... But the C16 and 3406 series were outstanding motors... I drive a 1994 White/GMC with a 3406 Cat with 1.2 million miles and the thing runs like a freaking top and hasn't ever had any major work done to it And from my experience the Series 60 was a brick house but did lack on power, but it was also a 12.7L with 430hp... So IDK about the 515 models or 14.0L Personally I have to agree with Reddog I think it is a majority opinion over actual facts, because I would personally take a C15 Acert over an ISX any day... A 430HP anything will lack in power. My dad has a 435 c13 in his truck right now. And yeah, I share the same view as you do. I liked the 3406E and B models, they even sound the best. I'm talking about the c13, c15 acert models and the twin turbos is all. They were problematic, and they are expensive to fix. Mainly because the name. Besides the sound and the power, I rate them low. I'm mixed on cummins. Nothing amazing. Before my dad got this 9400 with a c13, he had a cummins 430. It was brutal. Slow as fuck. Love the n14 though. |
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Post by Kyle on May 9, 2011 0:30:46 GMT -6
To be honest unless you drive one your opinion doesn't really count and if you really want to be useful you can drive a couple of each.
I know from what we have in tugboats the cats are old, inneficiant and always a lot of work, but for the most part the never broke down no matter how under maintained they were. I don't see too many detroits if any but now a days everyone is swapping out the cats for cummins which are a lot nicer to deal with and a he'll of a lot quieter which is always important when you have to sleep next to it, but they do seem to break down a lot.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2011 6:42:20 GMT -6
You think a C15 is bullshit because your so used too a Detroit, lol. Uhmm, you're dumb. Quite the opposite. I've been around cat engines most of my life. That's how I know. Sucked the last 15 years? Well maybe in your opinion, sure they went down hill and even sucked with the Acert series and your right it wasn't a reliable motor... But the C16 and 3406 series were outstanding motors... I drive a 1994 White/GMC with a 3406 Cat with 1.2 million miles and the thing runs like a freaking top and hasn't ever had any major work done to it And from my experience the Series 60 was a brick house but did lack on power, but it was also a 12.7L with 430hp... So IDK about the 515 models or 14.0L Personally I have to agree with Reddog I think it is a majority opinion over actual facts, because I would personally take a C15 Acert over an ISX any day... A 430HP anything will lack in power. My dad has a 435 c13 in his truck right now. And yeah, I share the same view as you do. I liked the 3406E and B models, they even sound the best. I'm talking about the c13, c15 acert models and the twin turbos is all. They were problematic, and they are expensive to fix. Mainly because the name. Besides the sound and the power, I rate them low. I'm mixed on cummins. Nothing amazing. Before my dad got this 9400 with a c13, he had a cummins 430. It was brutal. Slow as fuck. Love the n14 though. [/quote] A C13 is a small engine...wont go over 800k. Especially a twin turbo. All problems unless you have a good CAT wrench to call. The N14 red top wasn't anything to play with 525 fresh out of the factory a powerhouse stock...Another motor that made cummins famous.Along with the Big Cam. Other than the cummins being top dog at the moment CAT had to pull out. There engines were made to work and smoke as much as they needed to. Not to burn clean. Don't blame me blame the government. If it was up to me the 6nz would still be an option when buying a truck off the lot instead of a glider. I dont drive the engine as much but I help keep it up. The engine is going on 1 mil in a while here. Pulls the same as when we picked it up from the dealer. 475 is enough to pull up grades and a new radiator woke that kitty up. |
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Post by Brett on May 9, 2011 7:18:01 GMT -6
Dont get me started on the dd15 or whatever. Already done the top end twice, all on warranty. What a load of shit. Detroit can blow itself. Oh yeah, truck has only 5xx xxx km? Load of shit.
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Post by JF154 on May 9, 2011 7:28:51 GMT -6
is very similar to the mack granite   so it is not a completely original design, but looks good |
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Post by Royboyyyy on May 9, 2011 11:54:35 GMT -6
Looks Like a knock off of an international.....
As for the engines I've driven nearly every motor on the highway today rock wise I'm going with Detroit the century I'm driving now has a 12.7 500 HP and exactly 1558826 miles on it and has had no major work done on it according to the records and it pulls great up hills... Pulling wise I'm going with the isx cummins we have drop one gear and youre good... As for the cats ehh we have a few trucks that have them and they are alright but aren't as solid as the Detroit and don't pull as hard as isx but that's just me
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Post by -=Bora=- on May 9, 2011 12:03:53 GMT -6
Looks Like a knock off of an international..... As for the engines I've driven nearly every motor on the highway today rock wise I'm going with Detroit the century I'm driving now has a 12.7 500 HP and exactly 1558826 miles on it and has had no major work done on it according to the records and it pulls great up hills... Pulling wise I'm going with the isx cummins we have drop one gear and youre good... As for the cats ehh we have a few trucks that have them and they are alright but aren't as solid as the Detroit and don't pull as hard as isx but that's just me Expect some comment's on your statement Mike! You and a few others commenting in this topic actually drive or used to drive trucks. I mean what do you guy's know about the subject Driving trucks just don't give you the same knowledge as being 15 year old riding along in the passenger seat  |
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Post by Royboyyyy on May 9, 2011 12:06:52 GMT -6
Ah ok explains a lot Steve And bora ;D  |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2011 12:35:46 GMT -6
Looks Like a knock off of an international..... As for the engines I've driven nearly every motor on the highway today rock wise I'm going with Detroit the century I'm driving now has a 12.7 500 HP and exactly 1558826 miles on it and has had no major work done on it according to the records and it pulls great up hills... Pulling wise I'm going with the isx cummins we have drop one gear and youre good... As for the cats ehh we have a few trucks that have them and they are alright but aren't as solid as the Detroit and don't pull as hard as isx but that's just me Expect some comment's on your statement Mike! You and a few others commenting in this topic actually drive or used to drive trucks. I mean what do you guy's know about the subject Driving trucks just don't give you the same knowledge as being 15 year old riding along in the passenger seat Who me? Just kidding bora. |
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